Wednesday, February 25, 2015

Some natural food to keep you young and healthy

Dr Abe V Rotor 
Buko - juice and flesh
 Guyabano fruit and shake 
Pako (Edible fern) salad; arusip or Caulerpa

Native papaya and native chico

Steamed fish


Avoid these! 
 Frankenfood 
fast food, artificial food 



Folk Wisdom - Science or Superstition (Test, 50 items)

Dr Abe V. Rotor
Living with Nature School on Blog
Paaralang Bayan sa Himpapawid with Ms Melly C Tenorio
738 DZRB AM Band, 8 to 9 evening class, Monday to Friday

Lesson: Self-administered test (True or False). Answers are provided after taking the test.



Purple caimito is sweeter than the ordinary green colored.

1. The coconut crab is the biggest crab in the world.

2. The whale has a good memory. Beware if you injure a whale; it may have its revenge someday.

3. You can water plants at any time of the day.

4. The elevator does not open on the 13th floor.

5. A mirror should be covered during a thunderstorm because it attracts lightning.

6. For bottles that are difficult to open, cool the lid with ice and twist.

7. Chicken soup is best for convalescent.

8. There is truth to the report that car runs freewheeling uphill on “magnetic hill.”

9. There are skin whiteners that are rich in mercury.

10. The country with the highest rate of traffic accidents in the Asian region is the Philippines.

11. If a clock that has not been working suddenly chimes, it means there will be death in the family

12. Place charcoal inside a refrigerator to remove bad odor.

13. Poultice of gumamela flowers hastens “ripening” of boil (pigsa).

14. Pulling out a gray or while hair will cause ten more to grow in its place.

15. To get good grades place your review notes or books under your pillow and sleep on them.

16. It’s bad to expose a pregnant woman’s belly to photo flash – she will give birth to a baby with defect.

17. Egg shells induce flowering of orchids.

18. Banana with freckles and discolorations means it is sweet.

19. Playing sungka is bad because of the nature of the game to “kill” your opponent.

20. Avoid mending clothes at night; it might cause blindness.

21. Don’t harm the señora, the matron rat; otherwise it will destroy more things in the house.

22. Knock once or twice – not thrice, else you court the attention of the devil.

23. Orange clouds are bad omen; they are signs of either drought or poor harvest.

24. If the money spent on wedding was borrowed, the couple will always be in debt.

25. When leaving the dining table ahead, those who are still eating must rotate their plates, otherwise they will remain bachelors or spinsters.

26. Emergence of the salagubang and salaguinto beetles usher the start of the amihan or Siberian cold wind.

27. Place money in a bed pan (arinola), so that it becomes plentiful.

28. The wishbone of a chicken makes a wholesome game for two. Wish comes true to the one who gets the common stem of the Y-shape bone.

29. Children are sacrificed in making bridges and other infrastructure.

30. Pigs are the only animals that will drink hard liquor voluntarily.

31. Corals are burned and pulverized to make cement.

32. We put “blinders” on work horses because horses can’t focus their eyes in the way humans do.

33. When cooking crabs and shrimps first bring the water to boiling, then immediately immerse them - dead or alive – to make them bright red.

34. Before a goat is slaughtered, it is forced to drink liquor.

35. A mad dog vehemently rejects water; and will go wild if forced to drink.

36. Rice is the first thing to carry with when moving to a new house.

37. To break the dormancy of certain seeds like palay, tobacco, saluyot, quickly immerse these seeds in ice water before you plant them.

38. Castor bean or tangan-tangan is poisonous.

39. Use elbow to test tepid bath for the baby.

40. Kugtong - giant lapu-lapu - really exists. Its mouth is so big, a man’s head could get through it.

41. Angalo, the friendly giant, is a real person.

42. The sex of a child is determined by the sex chromosomes of the mother.

43. Pansit-pansitan or Piperomia pellucida relieves arthritis.

44. Pollen allergy is often the cause of sneezing fit and asthmatic symptoms.

45. Kamagong, the hardest wood comes from mabolo (Diospyrus discolor).

46. Among the local dialects, only Ilocano has the term for tempering – paslep.

47. You can detect fish caught by dynamite because dynamited fish have eyes, abdomen, scales and flesh battered by the blast.

48. Beer attracts the giant land snail, Achatina fulica.

49. A person born suwi’ (breech birth) can remove bone stuck in the throat by mere sleight of his hand.

50. Victims of lead poisoning may not be aware of their actual condition.

x x x


Don't eat any leftover of birds - you will became talkative.

ANSWERS:

1. The coconut crab is the biggest crab in the world. (True. It can weigh up to 4 kilos and can live for 30 years. It climbs coconut trees, harvest the nut and crack it open with its powerful pincers. Being a favorite delicacy it is now declared an endangered species.)

2. The whale has a good memory. Beware if you injure a whale; it may have its revenge someday. (True. Remember Moby Dick the white whale in Herman Merville’s novel of the same title? At the end, the whale had its revenge killing its torturers, Captain Ahed and his crew, and sinking their ship.)

3. You can water plants at any time of the day. (False. Watering plants during hot hours causes pasma, the effect of sudden and alternate exposure to heat and cold. This is what exactly happens when you train a water hose on plants directly exposed to noon heat. It causes damage to cells and tissues particularly in buds, growing leaves and flowers. Even if the plants don’t die under such conditions, they will cease to grow and develop normally, a term we call bansot. The best time to water the plants is early in the morning or late in the afternoon. Allow the plants to get adjusted to the weather. And do the watering with tender, loving care (TLC).

4. The elevator does not open on the 13th floor. (True. Architects and builders generally give way to this tradition and superstitious belief. I have yet to ride an elevator and arrive on the 13th floor.)

5. A mirror should be covered during a thunderstorm because it attracts lightning. (False, but the reflection of lightning will only exacerbate fear.).

6. For bottles that are difficult to open, cool the lid with ice and twist. (False. It is the opposite – slowly heat the lid and twist. This technique ideally applies to glass jars with metal cover. The principle involved is that metal and other materials expand when heated, and contract when subjected to cold. The lid readily expands when heated while the glass jar doesn’t expand as much. Heat also loosens wax and other sticky materials.

7. Chicken soup is best for convalescent. True. However, there are specifications of the kind of chicken to be served. First, it must be native chicken. Karurayan is the term in Ilocos for a pure white native chicken which does not bear any trace of color on its feathers. It is preferably a female, dumalaga or fryer, meaning it has not yet reached reproductive stage. It is neither fat nor thin. Usually the herbolario chooses one from recommended specimens. He then instructs and supervises the household in the way the karurayan is dressed, cut, cooked into tinola (stew) and served to the convalescent. He does not ask for any fee for his services, but then he takes home one or two of the specimens that did not pass the specifications. Chicken soup as a convalescent food is recognized in many parts of the world. Because of its popularity, chicken soup has become associated with healing, not only of the body – but the soul as well. In fact there is a series of books under the common title Chicken Soup - for the Woman’s Soul, Surviving Soul, Mother’s Soul, Unsinkable Soul, Writer’s Soul, etc. Of course, this is exaggeration, but nonetheless it strengthens our faith that this lowly descendant of the dinosaurs that once walked the earth of its panacean magic.

8. There is truth to the report that car runs freewheeling uphill on “magnetic hill.” This enigmatic place is found at the foot of Mt. Makiling in Los Baños, Laguna, 60 km south of Manila, a stretch of country road overlooking the Laguna Bay. (False. Puzzled at the mystery I brought my car to the place. I shifted the transmission stick to neutral, released the brakes, and anticipated what would happen. Surprisingly the wheels began to move and slowly gained momentum. The car was coasting uphill! On second thought I asked myself, “Am I drawn by magnetic force?” People in the area believe the mountain is one huge magnet. It has lured many people to experience the legendary phenomenon. To check if it is really true, I turned back to where I had started earlier. This time it was going “downhill,” but the car did not respond, so I shifted to low gear. Halfway there was water coming from a nearby spring and flowing along the roadside. If water seeks its own level, why is it running uphill? And there I found the explanation. The whole thing is an optical illusion.

9. There are skin whiteners that are rich in mercury. (True. There are cases of mercury poisoning among whitener users reported in Hongkong. Mercury is injurious to the kidney and liver, and may cause deformity in children as in the case of the Minamata disease.)

10. The country with the highest rate of traffic accidents in the Asian region is the Philippines. (False. It is Thailand, with three fatalities in one hour. Studies show that the main cause of traffic accidents is stress and fatigue. Since inducing massage on tired feet, thigh and muscles in gas stations, the rate of accident has significantly decreased.)

11. If a clock that has not been working suddenly chimes, it means there will be death in the family. (False. It is one of the horror stories, and those of Nathaniel Hawthorne, a great American fiction writer. Two of his ghostly novels are The Scarlet Letter and The House of the Seven Gables)

12. Place charcoal inside a refrigerator to remove bad odor. (True. Charcoal absorbs unpleasant odor and gases in the air. For newly painted room place charcoal at the corners of the room, and in three to five days it is safe for occupancy.)

13. Poultice of gumamela flowers hastens “ripening” of boil (pigsa). (True. Hibiscus rosasinensis contains pharmacological properties to explain its folkloric use, such as alkaloids and terpenes.)

14. Pulling out a gray or while hair will cause ten more to grow in its place. (False, but pulling out hairs may adversely affect nearly nerves and may cause infection.)

15. To get good grades place your review notes or books under your pillow and sleep on them. (False, it is impossible to transmit knowledge this way during sleep. But “incubation” of what we have earlier studied or observed may take place in the unconscious mind, even when we are asleep, which sometimes come as dream.)

16. It’s bad to expose a pregnant woman’s belly to photo flash – she will give birth to a baby with defect. (False. There is no scientific basis to this claim. The radiation is so little as to affect the child in the womb.)

17. Egg shells induce flowering of orchids. (True. Eggshell is a source of Calcium which is needed by the plant, and in neutralizing acidity.)

18. Banana with freckles and discolorations means it is sweet. (False, in fact such condition is the result of attacking insects and pathogens. It is often that we find lumps in the fruit, or the fruit itself is deformed or disheveled.)

19. Playing sungka is bad because of the nature of the game to “kill” your opponent. (False. Well, there are games designed to putting down the opponent mercilessly, and in ways and terms that are not kind and pleasant.)

20. Avoid mending clothes at night; it might cause blindness. (False, but anything we do that is habitual under poor lighting will really lead to such condition.)

21. Don’t harm the señora, the matron rat; otherwise it will destroy more things in the house. (False. In India however, rats are believed to be the re-incarnation of dead ancestors. Sometimes rats are called kabas, meaning little children, so that they are often treated with favor.)

22. Knock once or twice – not thrice, else you court the attention of the devil. (False, but you might get in trouble with the person who despises your manners.)

23. Orange clouds are bad omen; they are signs of either drought or poor harvest. (True, the orange color of the sky is due to suspended dusts coming from drought affected areas. The Great Dust Bowl in the US in the thirties reminds us of this man-induced calamity.)

24. If the money spent on wedding was borrowed, the couple will always be in debt. (False. But to borrow money to spend for a “bongacious” ceremony is definitely not a good start for the couple.)

25. When leaving the dining table ahead, those who are still eating must rotate their plates, otherwise they will remain bachelors or spinsters. (False, but it has become a common practice; even married people do it foolheartedly.)

26. Emergence of the salagubang and salaguinto beetles usher the start of the amihan or Siberian cold wind. (False. These insects which reside under the soil for about a year as grubs subsisting on roots of plants emerge at the start of the rainy season (habagat), hence their names May or June beetles.)

27. Place money in a bed pan (arinola), so that it becomes plentiful. (False. But who would suspect money to be found inside an arinola but its owner?)

28. The wishbone of a chicken makes a wholesome game for two. Wish comes true to the one who gets the common stem of the Y-shape bone. (False. There is a trick to break the bone to one’s advantage)

29. Children are sacrificed in making bridges and other infrastructure. (True. It is an ethnic practice which we may have forgotten. The Great Walls of China and the Pyramids of Egypt are known to contain entombed human sacrifices.)

30. Pigs are the only animals that will drink hard liquor voluntarily. (True, and you can only imagine what happens afterward.)

31. Corals are burned and pulverized to make cement. (True. This is the way of making cement in olden times. Corals are calcium deposits accumulated for thousands of years. )

32. We put “blinders” on workhorses because horses can’t focus their eyes in the way humans do. (True. They have to change the angle of their head if they want to see objects clearly. That’s why they bob their heads up and down, or swing it side to side. To avoid this, horses must wear blinders to have their eyes focused straight and avoid disruptions.)

33. When cooking crabs and shrimps first bring the water to boiling, then immediately immerse them - dead or alive – to make them bright red. (True. Try it)

34. Before a goat is slaughtered, it is forced to drink liquor. (False. It is vinegar that is given to the animal to make its meat tastier and reduce its characteristic odor (angdud Ilk). Vinegar is placed in a small bottle and inserted into the animal’s mouth forcing it to be swallowed. The animal is then bled and consequently slaughtered.

35. A mad dog vehemently rejects water; and will go wild if forced to drink. (True. That is how the word hydrophobia is associated with mad dog.)

36. Rice is the first thing to carry with when moving to a new house. (True. Together with rice comes a short list of basic necessities such as a bundle of firewood, salt, beans, nuts, fruits, sugar and coffee. The belief is that the family will not run out of these basic needs, an ethnic practice which still prevails in remote communities.)

37. To break the dormancy of certain seeds like palay, tobacco, saluyot, quickly immerse these seeds in ice water before you plant them. (False. Immerse the seeds in hot water (around 60 degrees Celsius) as quickly as you can, allow the seeds to cool off and plant them immediately.)

38. Castor bean or tangan-tangan is poisonous. (True. The seeds of Ricinus communis contain one of the most poisonous substances in nature – ricin. This is the reason castor oil as purgative is no longer recommended. Purified ricin is reportedly used in the manufacture of lethal weapons.

39. Use elbow to test tepid bath for the baby. (True. When testing the proper bath temperature, immerse your elbow for a few seconds to determine if the bath is just right – not too warm nor too cold. The finger is not as sensitive to do this test. Next time you bathe your baby, try this useful tip.)

40. Kugtong - giant lapu-lapu - really exists. Its mouth is so big, a man’s head could get through it. (True. I saw a pair of giant lapu-lapu caught in Sablayan Occidental Mindoro by local fishermen sometime in 1982.)

41. Angalo, the friendly giant, is a real person. (False. Angalo is just a legend of the Ilocos region. It is like Lam-ang, Achilles, Beowulf, or any epic hero.)

42. A sex of a child is determined by the sex chromosomes of the mother. (False. It is the sperm cell, because it carries either the X or the Y chromosome, while the ovum or egg carries only the X chromosomes. XY means it is a boy; XX, a girl)

43. Pansit-pansitan or Piperomia pellucida relieves arthritis. (True. This annual herb appears waxy and translucent for which it got its name, pellucidus. It is shallow rooted, its stem succulent and bears alternate heart-shaped turgid leaves that are transparent and smooth as candle wax. It is a common folk remedy.)

44. Pollen allergy is often the cause of sneezing fit and asthmatic symptoms. (True. It is called allergy rhinitis. There are people who are highly sensitive to pollen grains. And their allergy is specific to certain plants, and at certain seasons these plants are in bloom. Plants belonging to Family Poaceae or Graminae which include rice, corn, wheat, sugarcane, talahib, cogon, and the like generally bloom in the last quarter beginning in October when dry season takes over the waning habagat season.)

45. Kamagong, the hardest wood comes from mabolo. (True. Diospyros discolor. It was once plentiful in the Philippines.)

46. Among the local dialects, only Ilocano has the term for tempering – paslep. (True. Other Philippine dialects, not even Tagalog, have a term for tempering, the process of hardening bolos and knives as durable and sharp as steel.)

47. You can detect fish caught by dynamite because dynamited fish have eyes, abdomen, scales and flesh battered by the blast. (True. Report to nearest authority the presence of such fish.)

48. Beer attracts the giant land snail, Achatina fulica. (True. Place the beer bait in a shallow pan, and gather the snails in the morning and destroy them.)

49. A person born suwi’ (breech birth) can remove bone stuck in the throat by mere sleight of his hand. (False. I was born suwi, which means I came out of the womb with head last. When I was a child my dad used to tell people I could dislodge a bone stuck in the throat. And he would bring in “patients” whom I would gladly heal by “feeling” where the bone is and telling them to move their heads here or there, and to swallowing hard with something solid like banana. Believe me after some trials, my patients would find relief, affirming that indeed being suwi is the key to this special gift. But as years went by I ceased to be the healer people knew, and what I thought I was, especially when I finished college. “Get the cat’s paw,” I would advise kindheartedly.

50. Victims of lead poisoning may not be aware of their actual condition. (True. It is because lead poisoning is slow and cumulative. Take the case of the sickly little boy who puzzled the kindly old family doctor of his condition. Then on a fine Sunday morning the doctor happened to drop at the boy’s residence. While having coffee with the family the doctor found something and exclaimed, “Now I know why my young patient is sickly!” It was like Archimedes who got out of the bathtub shouting, “Eureka! Eureka!” (I found it, I found it) He pointed at the gold lining on the rim of the coffee cup which has faded which means that the user is slowly taking in the lead-rich paint. On inspecting the other china the doctor found the same condition. Lead poisoning was also the cause of mysterious illness and death among the ancient Romans using lead drinking cups and vessels. The Romans invented plumbing, from the word plumbus or lead (Pb), the principal material in plumbing.


There is no giant starfish, such as this - and blue
at that.
 This is a plastic model.


Count the number of correct answers and rate yourself accordingly.


46 - 50 Outstanding
41 – 45 Very Good
36 – 40 Good
26 – 35 Average
16 – 25 Poor
15 - below Very Poor

Answers to photo captions: All false

Tuesday, February 24, 2015

"Bring home the rainbow, Papa."

Dr Abe V Rotor and Ariel S Tabag Bannawag)
Living with Nature School on Blog
Paaralang Bayan sa Himpapawid with Ms Melly C Tenorio
738 DZRB AM Band, 8 to 9 evening class, Monday to Friday
Kulit plays with the rainbow at home.

A piece of rainbow spills on the floor like magic carpet.


Prism splits light into seven colors - the rainbow's secret.


I am no Atlas or Hercules,
neither one another's wit,
nor Thor who sends the rain
or a storm in his fit. 
To bring home the rainbow
for my children's sake,by lens or words to escape,
would be sin if I fake.

Once I brought home a firefly.
Here is a a star, I said;
and through the night it watched
over them in their bed. 
Once I brought home the sun
in a bouquet of sunflower;
And the moon in yellow melon,
the sea, in a queer puffer.

Bring home the rainbow, Pa
pa.
That was a long time ago,
a promise I have not fulfilled -
what now at sunset's glow?

Suddenly the sun came through
a prism by its magic drew 
a cathedral in the sky I knew.
Papa, you brought home the rainbow!



Yes, you can bring down the rainbow - and touch it, too.

Dr Abe V Rotor
Living with Nature School on Blog
Paaralang Bayan sa Himpapawid with Ms Melly C Tenorio 
738 DZRB AM Band, 8 to 9 evening class, Monday to Friday
Morning rainbow across the hills and river in Bamban, Tarlac
 
Children in the neighborhood delight in making a rainbow through an aquarium as prism.  You can make one, too, in your home.  

Rainbow - a kaleidoscope of colors in a pattern of seven - red, orange, yellow, green blue, indigo and violet - that guide man's art in endless combinations.

Rainbow - it builds slowly before our eyes; it comes as twin, or breaks out suddenly  perking up life in its low ebb, and taking out the boredom of living.   

Rainbow - gauge of  weather, reference for travel and trade, source of inspiration of lovers,  bards and writers, subject of the arts, icon of faith and devotion. 

Rainbow - the make-believe subject in children's stories of fairies and spirits; the most sought treasure of grownups -  the proverbial pot of gold. 

Rainbow - ephemeral for which its beauty in heightened, like a rose in the morning, 
first rain in May, the passing of day and night, and the march of seasons. 

Rainbow - likened to the cycle of life - its birth and death, glory and fall, its simplicity grandeur, its independence and attachment to all things, visible and invisible.   

Rainbow - now you see it, now you don't, a puzzle to the old and young in all walks of life, yet seeing it best with a clear mind, pure heart and spirit.

Rainbow - it conquers gloom, sows hope, builds the biggest, the most beautiful and magnificent arch of the world that bestows honor to everyone.  

Rainbow - the cathedral in the sky that brings the faithful of all beliefs together in awe and respect to the Creator, the unifying grace of all mankind.  

Rainbow - too high, too far, too abstract, yet to the children it is near, it is real and true; rainbow the symbol of beauty and hope, it comes when the sky is gloomy and dark. ~

Rainbow comes down to earth in many ways - in flowers in spring, leaves in autumn, mountains at sunrise, reflection of lakes, spray of running streams, mirage in deserts, feathers of fowls, and the like.  The rainbow is commonly imitated in man-made structures and designs, and many items of trade and commerce.

Living things like this rainbow fish have captured through evolution the colors and pattern of the rainbow, assuring them of their place in the living world.   

Narcissus Butterfly

Dr Abe V Rotor
Living with Nature School on Blog
Paaralang Bayan sa Himpapawid with Ms Melly C Tenorio
738 DZRB AM Band, 8 to 9 evening class, Monday to Friday

Troides butterfly visits an open jar of water at home, QC. 

"If Narcissus is dead,
       why do butterflies visit the water?"  - avr





Dialogue with the Butterfly

Dr Abe V Rotor 
Living with Nature School on Blog
Paaralang Bayan sa Himpapawid (People's School on Air) with Ms Melly C Tenorio
738 DZRB 8 to 9 evening class, Monday to Friday

Exquisite netted venation of a butterfly wing, representing nature's architecture universal in the insect world, flying foxes, leaves of most plants, and blood vessels in human and  other creatures.
 



 Life cycle of the butterfly -  from egg to caterpillar to pupa to adult - the butterfly.


Fly me to your world, oh butterfly,
where flows the Pierian Spring,
the fountain of youth eternal,
where Sylphids dance and sing.

I'd rather wish to be in your garden    
foe and friend yet we're one,
where the tree of knowledge blooms,
nurtured by rain and sun.

I cannot reach for the rainbow,
neither can I make one,
but you, by your wings and wand,
build the biggest crown.

Your sense of beauty’s not ours,
fleeting and elusive,
ephemeral to your senses all,
before it is perceived.

Just for once, oh butterfly, to leave  
the home of my ancestor,
I shall cease to ask another favor    
nor crave for more. 

       Then I shall fly no more in your garden; 
       the flowers will die with the fountain,
       and all that lives shall crave the same
       with nothing to hope and gain. ~

The Colors of Tabon Cave

The Colors of Tabon Cave 
Dr Abe V Rotor
Living with Nature School on Blog

Colorful Tabon Cave, Palawan in acrylic by AVR

I painted Tabon Cave, 
home of early Homo sapiens
who tamed the fire 
against cold and darkness.

its walls and ceiling, 
first art and chronicler,
its floor the resting place 
of the dead and living.

perched on a mountain high
observatory of land and sea, 
yellow at sunrise, red at sunset,
green its cloak and curtain. 

window to the world unknown
eons of time living in peace,
arched by the rainbow
'til man searched its ends.~

Lesson on former Paaralang Bayan sa Himpapawid (People's School on Air) with Ms Melly C Tenorio
738 DZRB 8 to 9 evening class, Monday to Friday

Golden Oscar


Dr Abe V Rotor
Living with Nature School on Blog
Paarlang Bayan sa Himpapawid with Ms Melly C Tenorio
738 DZRB AM Band, 8 to 9 evening class, Monday to Friday


Love those Oscars, fish given away at token;
they're albinos, they were leftovers:
devoid of contrast, the black color of narcissus,
orphans I said and took them home.

They are twelve, outcasts wandering for so  long,

but no longer in my glass aquarium;    
where the view of the garden is less than prison,
and I, their master, guardian, friend.

And I let the sun in, in the morning until noon,

then the sun peeps in rainbow's prism
and cast over them, over their scales and fins,  
day in and out, 'til a transformation came.

gone were their dull and pale colors as they bask

in light. Aren't they albinos? I asked
and I researched further, if someone is wrong -
there is a big mistake, but whose?    

L'l do we know the science to which we belong;
least of the unknown, the mysterious.
blaming the Creator, he too, commits mistake
to conceal our innocence and ignorance. ~  

Secret of the Rainbow Eucalyptus

Dr Abe V Rotor
Living with Nature School on Blog
Paaralang Bayan sa Himpapawid with Ms Melly C Tenorio 
738 DZRB AM Band, 8 to 9 evening class, Monday to Friday
What is your secret in capturing the elusive rainbow and weaving it into a gown you now wear? 
Ever since I was a child, I've always dreamed of reaching it - not for the pot of gold, I swear.

And down below, I imagine your roots wearing the rainbow gown, but what would it matter? 
Oh, I'd rather not ask if you have found the treasure and buried it down there forever. ~